• Anonymous

    These analyses are always so skewed. Tim Cook will talk about how Twitter on iPad OS is better because it’s his perfect Freudian example. He won’t show you any apps that use barometers because there aren’t any, because the iPad doesn’t have one of those sensors – no bother that even some Android phones have a barometer, and therefore devs are building apps to take advantage of that data. I mean, sure, “ours is better” when you’re choosing what is scrutinized. But consumers who actually “think different” aren’t just told what is better and believe it; they know there is always an alternative, that’s the point of thinking different.

    As for “fragmentation”, Apple will never mention that their forthcoming 10.8 OS won’t work on a handful (as in, many) of their machines, including the 2006 & 2007 Mac Pro lines, their top-of-the-line workstation machines won’t even run their forthcoming OS. But they never criticize their own fragmentation woes, they just say “upgrade”. So whatever.

  • Anonymous

    Sure sometimes apps can make navigating web based resources less painful. But are you going to install a dedicated app for every one one of those resources ? NO you’d need hundreds of apps! We have one app that handles all these resources just fine its called a web browser! And on a tablet In many cases I have my browser set to “desktop“ “full site“ or whatever jargon they use that gives you a richer standard desktop experience. The point that was made about development is moot. All a resource needs is a great standards based site. The twitter site in standard mode on my android tablet looks and functions much the same as your iPad app the g+ website is another example and I didn’t have to install anything extra! You should admit to being a bit disingenuous because many of the screen caps used here you drilled down a page or two to the most barren page you could find to prove your point.

  • http://searchengineland.com/ Danny Sullivan

    Nick, I never need to use a barometer on either the iPad (if it had one) or Android. I need to use Twitter and Google+ all the time. Twitter’s also a very popular usage on the iPad. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to wish these apps were better. As for fragmentation, if the fact a five-year-old Mac won’t run the latest OS is the problem, I think they’re OK given that I’ve got a brand new Android phone that still not upgraded to Android 4 (the Galaxy S II Skyrocket), and the Droid Charge that I swamped out for the Galaxy Nexus — well, good thing I did. Because that phone apparently will never get the Android 4 upgrade.

  • http://searchengineland.com/ Danny Sullivan

    Mattviator, you make a good point about the web browser. Ideally, that is the way forward. But no, the Twitter site doesn’t look at all like the iPad app renders it. For one thing, the browser is extremely sluggish when using Twitter. I remember this being a problem with the Galaxy Tab 10 in the middle of last year. That’s one reason I really haven’t been back to even thinking about it.

    Looking just now, it’s still the case with the even faster Transformer Prime. Speedwise, doing things in the iPad versus Android using the browser, the browser is left in the dust.
    Aside from that Twitter in the browser doesn’t open a new pane to preview content in the way the iPad does. Actually, the Twitter site used to do this, and I really miss it even on my desktop. But the experience is simply not the same on the iPad, which is excellent.As for Google+, using it via the browser was downright impossible, if I recall correctly, when it first released. Believe me, I tried, as I documented here:https://plus.google.com/u/0/113217924531763968801/posts/36E8pPZQgxE As with Twitter, that’s one reason why I haven’t thought to go back. I was pleasantly surprised to find that logging in and changing to the desktop view works much better than I remember it. It’s not as sluggish as Twitter, but it does seem to flicker in some weird ways that make me nervous. But still, I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

    And no, I didn’t try to pick out something to make the Android tablet look especially bad versus the iPad. Those are two standard things that I do, view a tweet or view a tweet with an article. The Android apps for Twitter and Google+ look empty and bad because they doen’t use all the available space well. They are bad. Sorry.

    If anything, the Twitter app is even worse in that the “drill down” you’re worried about is because it has no concept of overlapping panes, as happens with the iPad. Want to read more about a tweet? Click, you get a new window.

    Do you actually have both an iPad and and Android tablet? I get the impression you only use Android and if so, are perhaps defensive about it. My post isn’t designed to make you or any Android owner somehow feel bad. It’s actually to say that Android apps could be better for the millions of Android users (which I am) who use these devices. In particular, that means Google could do more.

  • http://www.facebook.com/arpit.singhi Arpit Singhi

    Dear nicknormal, its not just about barometer. What matters is what suits to most of the audience taste and iPad truly delivers it.

    It can never be ignored that apple is a trend setter, be it a touchscreen phone or a pad.

  • http://twitter.com/matthewpack Matthew Pack

    Apple have more cash, more experience and a better understanding of the customer.  They’re gonna keep on winning. Search Giant v Engineering Genius. My money’s on Apple

  • Juhani

    Good thing that the official twitter client isn’t the only option if you’re using Android tablet. There are even few twitter apps that are only for tabs like the TweetComb. Then you have Plume and Seesmic which both have tablet optimized UI. 
    There is no shortage of Android tab apps anymore. When the official client fails go for a 3rd party one. Many of them are very good. 

    Googl+ though.. they really should lead by example..

  • http://twitter.com/lasertekinc Laser Tek Services

    I definitely like the UI of the Twitter app on the iPad but It’s the ability to add and quickly switch accounts plus the smooth transition that I find very useful. I do most of my social networking on the iPad nowadays because I find it more convenient than the regular browser and of course, it looks more interesting than the regular browser format.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dfung60 David Fung

    Hmmm… When your upcoming 2012 OS doesn’t work on a 6 year old product, I don’t think that’s fragmentation.  

    When you announce Ice Cream Sandwich in December, it’s not on new phones or tables shipping then, it’s still not on most phones or tablets shipping now, and it may never be available for phones that are current models today, THAT’S fragmentation.

    If you say that Google needs to get it’s act together on OS migration, that’s exactly the definition of fragmentation.

  • Anonymous

    But that’s my point. If a barometer sensor is “what suits” weather nerds, then the iPad falls flat 100%. If having a better-than-0.3MP front-facing camera is “what suits” a user, the iPad falls flat. If it’s about “what suits”, then there’s no such thing as better or best, it’s about what a user wants, and there’s no such field as trend-setting if a user isn’t swayed by market hype.

  • Anonymous

    But if the metric used to measure any device’s usability is only the metrics you measure it with, the analysis is off. i.e. “I need storage expansion all the time.” – iPad has no microSD slot so it’s not what I want let alone NEED. Never will be. Plenty of use-scenarios where this makes sense, and if it’s about what “I need” then there is no such thing as “better”. And sorry but I don’t see the point in paying $850 for a device to use faux-4G so I can do Twitter and Google+ “better” “all the time”. Most consumers – 99% – are not in that market column, sorry.

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